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Ban unresizable popups

I don’t know what makes some Web designers think they have the right to prevent me from resizing the windows on my computer screen. If designers think they can predict the exact width and height in pixels of their content in any browser, on any operating system, in any font and in any text size, they’re being incredibly naive.

For example, Rockymountainnews.com is shooting itself in the foot with its “desktop headlines” feature, which in Mozilla is sized too small for any content to be visible:

A screenshot of a popup window that Mozilla renders with a header, but no content visible

I gather the feature — which I don’t exactly understand the point of anyway — is supposed to look like this screenshot from Internet Explorer:

A screenshot of a popup window that Internet Explorer renders as intended with a header and the content visible

I’m not sure why the site’s obviously non-cross-browser JavaScript opens the popup to different sizes in the two browsers, but since the popup window has scrollbars and resizing disabled, it is completely useless in Mozilla.

It’s bad enough — but somewhat understandable — that the default sizes for many popup windows are set for what works in Internet Explorer on the PC. It is neither understandable nor forgivable for a site to prevent me from overriding that size.

Comment by glenn1you0, posted July 2, 2003, 11:10 pm

Agreed. I'm a function-over-form-kind-of-guy. Resizable frames are just the beginning. Absolute positioning, layouts that don't respond well to browser font settings other than 'medium', or don't respond at all to browser font settings, etc all pollute content ubiqity. I tend to think that it is a side effect of designers who learned how to design brochures before they built web sites. I know the pretty sites are, well, pretty and all, but I believe that most work to control the esthetics is just another way of restricting the use and flow of information, and that such controls are counter to the principles that have made the net so successful. Take Flash for example. Yes, people could ( and unfortunately do ) create entire web sites with flash, but where would the net be if we had started that way? What if the HTTP had been a much more complicated protocol, or even a binary only protocol? Simple is good. Device/Display independance is good. And open is even better.

Whoa, I'm getting way offtopic. You must've hit a sore spot.

Anyway, maybe it really depends on who the audience is. Many sites no longer compete in terms of content ( because they're all carrying the same stories ), they compete in terms of esthetics/user experience. Maybe Mozilla users aren't their target market. ;-( I'm using Mozilla 1.2.1 right now, but I probably don't go a week without using lynx, which almost nobody cares to check their sites against ( all I ask is for an appropriate use of alt tags ), but such is life, huh?

Ummm, in summary, I agree completely, but I apparantly couldn't say so with less than 50 words.

Comment by Glenn Franxman, posted July 3, 2003, 8:45 am

Followup to my own previous reply. What makes designs like the one you mentioned so offensive is that they violate one of the key principles which are believed to be key to the net's success. If you believe that the net has been so successful because it embodies these principles:
1. Nobody owns it.
2. Everybody can use it.
3. Anybody can improve it.
then non-cross-browser designs violate principle #2. If you think the answer is to use flash or shockwave, then you violate principle 3, and to a lesser extent, principle 1.

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